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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 1:22 pm 
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There is a seller on e- bay selling 8, 2 way truss rods for abt. $45 . has anyone bought any of these ? are they any good ? the seller purestore has a lot of luthier related items . I see truss rods on CF martin for abt 12.65 think LMI is higher . Your opinion?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:45 pm 
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I would stick with a supplier that I know will stand by their product. Cheaper is not always better. I have used LMII 2-ways and the Martin one way. No problem with either


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:46 pm 
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$12 isn't a lot for a truss rod. Just put the difference on the price of the Guitar. I doubt that $6 is going to be a deal breaker when it comes to a handmade Guitar.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 3:47 pm 
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Todd Stock wrote:

- How long does it take you to change out a truss rod as part of a warranty repair?


I think this says so much for the little amount of money saved...!

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 5:41 pm 
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As one who had to replace a broken two way rod on a brand new guitar just back from finish (Chinese made for an American outlet) I recommend going with a device with a known track record. I use Mark Blanchard's rod now but the Martin should be fine too.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 6:46 pm 
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The consensus is made in the usa,thanks for the feedback.


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I've used the 18 long two way rods from Allparts in my electrics for years. They're well made, very responsive, and I haven't had a failure yet. They're six bucks each dealer cost, about the same price as the ones you're looking at.

I suspect they're Chinese made, and I don't have a problem with them.

For my acoustics I use the Martin 2 ways.

If they made longer ones for electrics, I'd pay the extra six bucks and use them for the electrics as well.

I don't see the sense in paying 4 times as much for the electric rods from LMI, especially since I like the larger hex key adjustment in the Allparts rods and they seem just as high quality as the LMI rods.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 9:18 pm 
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I.ve done business with allparts before .But since I don/t build electrics. or know how to . Will probably get mine from Martin. Thanks for the info.


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I've had to replace one of the Allied two way rods on one of my acoustics. It was difficult and required removing the fretboard. For the Martin two way rod, I make the slot for it with a round bottom bit. It's possible to remove this rod without disassembling the neck but you won't have to. It would be difficult to use the Martin rod for a peghead adjustment access. It is designed for soundhole access.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 8:32 am 
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Thanks fillipo just had a quick look , he certainly has a huge variety of sizes . Price seems reasonable too.


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:43 am 
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Just as a precaution Filippo, rout a channel in a piece of wood and clamp another piece over it with the truss rod in place and lean into the adjustment both ways to test the welds.

When I had a two way marketed by a well known supplier break in a new instrument at one of the welds I tested the rest of my supply that way and 4 out of 7 failed. I just used to test them by clamping one end in a vise and taking it both ways with some tension. That isn't good enough to be sure the welds are solid.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:17 am 
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Terence good idea, did you reweld the failures? or just send them back ? Are you allowed to divulge the name of that particular supplier, or have you changed your supplier ?? thanks


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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:15 pm 
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I sent them back. This was a while back. The supplier told be they had a bad batch and changed vendors in China. I assume the problem was fixed. I was not testing them aggressively enough either.

I think this thread will answer a lot of your questions. Note that all Martin-style rods don't appear to be the same.

viewtopic.php?f=10101&t=38957&hilit=Broken+truss+rod&start=0

Truss rods are not a place to pinch pennies. Failure results in a real mess that eats time and $$$$. I only use Mark Blanchard's hand made rods now. Well worth the expense.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:29 pm 
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There is more to this story that one might imagine at first glance thanks for the info.


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